Posts by Brock Talon

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Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Dress Up For Meetings?

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

library.

books & brochures.

who are doing jehovah’s will today?.

Brock Talon

The comments from Biahi and LongHairGal make me sad because it brings back memories of when I was in.

My JW wife and I were in our late twenties. She was busty and curvy in all the right places. Having strawberry blonde hair, some called her "Jessica Rabbit" or "Lonny Anderson" behind our backs with a snicker. She was friendly and outgoing and would give the food off her plate and the shoes on her feet to anyone, but she was ALWAYS the subject of criticism regarding her clothing no matter what she wore. She could never win. It was impossible to please the elders because behind the scenes it was the elders wives who were always finding fault with her. Thus I received regular "council" on "controlling my wife" on the subject of blouses that were "too tight" or skirts that were too high, or too snug, etc. In actuality, anything that fit her properly simply showed her curves. What they really wanted was for her to wear a gunny sack around her neck, straight down and hide what nature gave her. In lieu of that, she was always deemed "immodest" simply because she did go out of her way to hide her figure. It was a constant struggle for us.

I will never forget two incidences I had with the knucklehead elders where I pushed back.

The first time was when one elder in particular came to me and pulled me into our back room. He said my wife's blouse was "showing off her breasts too much." I marveled at that because they were completely covered (no cleavage) and the blouse was made of material that was actually quite thick on that day. Sure, the blouse fit her, but it wasn't like it was pulling at the buttons or anything like that. It wasn't like she was in a thin silk blouse, like the ones that particular elders wive always wore. At that moment, through the glass in the back room where we were meeting (and could see into the Kingdom Hall) I noticed his wife talking to mine. On that day his wife had on loose thin, silk blouse that was cut down low enough to see a lot of cleavage. Enough to show a necklace she was wearing that had a charm between her breasts. I told this hypocrite "I can't believe you of all people would say that. Look at [the elder wife's name] right now. Your wife has a flimsy silk blouse on, cut down to here with a gold medallion on it between her boobs. I realize your wife is modestly endowed and a bit overweight as a mother of four with hips and thighs that betrays that fact, but her breasts are showing WAY more than my wife's. Just because [my wife's name] is young and pretty and well endowed, doesn't give you permission to pick on her for that reason alone, especially since your wife always shows off WAY more than mine. Same goes for her skirt lengths. Your wife always wears dresses and skirts that show off way more leg than mine does." He never bothered me with that again.

The second incident came when there was a congregational pool party at someone's house. Now, I knew this could turn into a disaster so I asked my wife, "Please honey, wear your most modest one-piece bathing suit. No two piece suit, OK? We do not need a hassle about this." She responded, "what about my bikini?" We both laughed at that thought. Anyway, she agreed and we went. Once people started actually swimming at the pool party, many of the sisters (not all) who got in the pool wore T-shirts over their bathing suits. I noticed that the ones who did were mostly those who had bodies they were embarrassed to show. Look, I don't judge. I'm older now myself and I don't like my own body all that much compared to back then, so I get wearing a T shirt to a pool party. It is a personal choice there and I don't say this to be cruel. I thought nothing of it. Many of the younger females (little girls on up into the early twenties) did not wear T shirts and a lot of them wore two piece suits. No problem. My wife gets into the pool with her one piece suit, one that completely covered everything, no cleavage at all mind you, and there's a problem. One of the more annoying, sanctimonious elders pulls me aside and says "why isn't your wife wearing a T shirt?" I respond, "why does she need a T shirt? Not everyone is wearing one. Why aren't you asking this about every adult female across the board? Why just my wife?" He stammers, "uh... well.. she.. looks too...uh..." he couldn't even explain it. I look at him and sarcastically finish his statement... "good? attractive? sexy? what?" Awkward silence. He looks over at his homely wife who is frowning at him. I realize the dynamics now. His wife told him to tell me to get my wife to wear a T shirt so she didn't have to look at my wife's body, covered up completely in a modest one piece swim suit. They couldn't actually complain about the suit, because no swim suit available in the world was more modest than that. They were actually complaining about my wife's body. Period. So, I finally put that stupid elder out of his misery and said, "Look [elder's name] I realize all you elders and your wives constantly look at my wife with criticism because God gave her a lovely face and a beautiful body. I made sure she wore the absolutely most modest bathing suit that is available for her to wear today, just to prevent you from complaining. Yet you still do. You have always made this issue my problem or my wife's problem, but today it finally dawned on me clearly: It's your own insecurities that are driving this. Let me put it to you this way: If any skin at all offends you, even modestly covered up skin with nothing private at all showing, THEN DON'T GO TO A POOL!"

I walked away and never concerned myself about what my wife wore ever again.

Of course, neither was I given "privileges" in the congregation ever again.

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Looking back a year at Covid

by pistolpete in

march of last year covid was declared a pandemic that would take hundreds of millions of lives world wide.. here are the facts after a year.. the world population is 7,800,000,000 (billions).

114,770,269 millions of people have caught the virus as of today.

aprox 91 million recovered from the virus,.

Brock Talon

When you actually read the CDC report on the 6% who died of COVID with "no underlying condition" and dig into what an "underlying condition" can actually mean, they include Pneumonia and the Flu. Since the majority of COVID deaths have been in the elderly, I ask you: how many elderly people have died of the Pneumonia and Flu every year that were NEVER reported before this COVID mess started last year? This "underlying condition" is enough to kill the sick and elderly all by itself. How are these "underlying"?

Others listed are heart failure and cardiac arrest. OK, again, how many have died of some form of heart disease every year, year after year of these conditions? This has always been one of the biggest killers of U.S. citizens, mainly because we are as a group obese and out of shape. But don't put that all on COVID.

My favorite category in this list is "Intentional and unintentional injury, poisoning and other adverse events"... oh, you mean like an automobile accident where your chest is caved in? Or when when a wife finds her spouse cheating and stabs him with a kitchen knife? If you go to the hospital with one of these "underlying conditions" (i.e. a huge knife hanging out of your back) and die from it and then are tested for COVID and are found to have had it, BINGO! COVID death. Yay. More money for the hospital.

Others are: renal failure, respiratory disease, diabetes and the like. Again, these are all killers by themselves.

https://wpde.com/news/nation-world/cdc-94-of-covid-19-deaths-had-underlying-medical-conditions-08-30-2020

Trying to snarkily dismiss this as a "conspiracy" is lazy and dishonest. Thinking people see the nuance in this. Granted, it is impossible to know if ANY of the deaths that had those underlying conditions would have not been deaths had the patient not had COVID. I don't know that, you don't know that. But an honest person has to admit that there has to be some percentage of the reported COVID deaths that are not really because of COVID.

To me there is a HUGE difference between dying BECAUSE of COVID vs. dying WITH it. Sure, COVID may finish you off, but if you are lying in a hospital bed with stage 3 cancer and COVID finishes you off, how is that COVID death? We don't do that with AIDS. Technically, no one really dies of AIDS. You always die by the complication that comes from you immune system being ruined by it. But when someone dies of AIDS, we say that. We list the thing that finishes them off as a "complication" or we say they died of the complication, DUE TO AIDS.

Yet with COVID, we do it backwards. If a patient has a heart attack and dies, sure, maybe COVID finished them off. But they died because of the heart attack, with a complication of COVID. Just like we would say about AIDS. But that is NOT how it is reported and counted by the media and the medical community.

This is not conspiracy. It is fact and logic.

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Looking back a year at Covid

by pistolpete in

march of last year covid was declared a pandemic that would take hundreds of millions of lives world wide.. here are the facts after a year.. the world population is 7,800,000,000 (billions).

114,770,269 millions of people have caught the virus as of today.

aprox 91 million recovered from the virus,.

Brock Talon

It is so amusing to see the media, the CDC and most Lefty braintrusts repeat over and over again that they have "debunked the myth" of exaggerated COVID deaths in the U.S. "If anything," they spout, "COVID deaths have been under reported!" Most of the sheeple seem to accept this as fact, and many blame Trump for spreading the lie about COVID deaths being exaggerated.

However, actual THINKING people ask themselves these questions:

Why is the United States (and its soul mate, the UK) so bad off vs. the rest of the entire free world when it comes to COVID death rates? (China and India numbers were already posted on this thread, but heck, the U.S is 7th out of 152 countries as worst per capita in COVID deaths. The UK is 4th worst in the entire world!)

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/

Is the U.S. really that clumsy and careless with how it handled COVID?

Putting aside the criminal way Lefty Governors like Andrew Cuomo handled nursing homes, did the U.S. not lock down hard enough and long enough? Did the U.S. not mandate wearing masks enough? Did the U.S. media not engage in enough daily hand wringing, advice giving and dire warning sounding?

Is the U.S. that backwards in the methods of treatment, hospital staffing and skill, general healthcare and the like?

Is the country that actually produced the vaccines for COVID (in record time mind you) THAT inept in preventing it's citizens from dying from it in the first place?

Is the U.S. population just that plain reckless and stupid, vs. the rest of the savvy smart countries who "know how to follow the rules"? (I actually heard one lunkhead on CNN explain why the U.S. fairs so badly in COVID deaths... "we just don't follow the rules like other countries..." )

Are the U.S. citizens perhaps more sickly, obese and pre-existing conditioned than the rest of the world? Maybe we are just older and frail than everyone else, so COVID just finishes us off more easily?

...or...

Could it be something else?

Could it perhaps be that hospitals were incentivized to report as many deaths as possible as COVID? (What, you mean if money is involved, that might affect things?)

Could it be that the Lefty powers that be (including regular and social media) Hollywood, the universities, etc. knew that the worse we had it with COVID deaths, the more Trump could be weakened and blamed? (What, you mean if politics is involved, that might affect things?)

Could it be that being labeled an "essential worker" who "put themselves in harms way for us" was a badge of honor that only grew with each COVID case and especially COVID deaths? (I met a young man at the hardware store last year who was wearing his working every day at the store as a badge of honor, because, and I quote him "I put myself in harms way for the public to be able to get what they need for their homes so they can be safe in them." I kid you not. He was deemed an essential worker and he was proud of it, and at the same time was gravely concerned for his own safety. This was not an act, he actually saw himself that way.)

Could it be that Fauci and other even more morose medical doomsdayers who predicted "Millions of COVID deaths" early on had to have higher numbers so they did not look so ridiculous? (What, you mean if ego and professional credibility is involved, that might affect things?)

I could go on, but I think you get the point.

It makes ZERO SENSE that the U.S.should have so high a COVID death rate compared to Trinidad, Botswana, Mexico and 142 other countries. Forget their blabbering nonsense; use your own thinking ability to figure this one out.

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Try To Be Less White

by minimus in

jw
friends

that’s what coca-cola is telling their employees.

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this is ridiculous!.

Brock Talon

Hey Coca Cola, about that "be less white" training... Thanks. I think its mighty white of you...

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Governor Cuomo, Mass Murderer?

by Simon in

what term would you use for a governor who enacts policies that directly cause the deaths of well over ten thousand and then covers up the death count for fear of prosecution?.

i think "mass murderer" is the correct term.. he's far, far from the "messiah" figure the media have portrayed him to be over his handling of covid.. let the lawsuits commence.. https://nypost.com/2021/02/11/cuomo-aide-admits-they-hid-nursing-home-data-from-feds/.

Brock Talon

greenhornet, read through the link I provided. It mentions four states: New York, New Jersey, Penn. and Mich. I don't know all the names of those dummy Governors, maybe you can look them up for us.

In fact, New Jersey had the highest per capita COVID 19 death rates of any state in the union. New York had the second highest per capita death rate, but given its size and population, New York had the highest in bottom line numbers of COVID deaths.

And yet Governor Cuomo was on CNN lecturing the entire nation on how to do things? He was given a fricken Emmy for it?

https://www.foxnews.com/media/andrew-cuomo-emmy-ceremony-draws-mockery-embarrassing

Here's another of many places you can read about this disaster, which I believe is at best is negligent homicide:

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/department-justice-requesting-data-governors-states-issued-covid-19-orders-may-have-resulted

The amazing thing is that nursing homes account for less than 1% of the population, yet account for nearly 40 something percent of all the COVID19 deaths! And those four states accounted for MOST of the nations nursing home deaths! This is not even counting bumbling, fumbling lefty states like California that are not on the Dept of Justice radar, but had large numbers of COVID deaths as well.

In-other-words, every single day when I witnessed those CNN dummies hand wringing over all the COVID deaths and blaming it on Trump, in actuality it was their idiology-pals the Democrats who were the most complicit in actually CAUSING those death numbers to begin with.

Meanwhile large conservative states, like Texas, had relatively low COVID death numbers, even in nursing homes. Compare the COVID death rates between Texas and New York and you will see night and day.

The most dangerous demographic to be in during 2020 was: 1) be elderly and, 2) live in a Democratic controlled, extremely leftist state.

Period.

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Governor Cuomo, Mass Murderer?

by Simon in

what term would you use for a governor who enacts policies that directly cause the deaths of well over ten thousand and then covers up the death count for fear of prosecution?.

i think "mass murderer" is the correct term.. he's far, far from the "messiah" figure the media have portrayed him to be over his handling of covid.. let the lawsuits commence.. https://nypost.com/2021/02/11/cuomo-aide-admits-they-hid-nursing-home-data-from-feds/.

Brock Talon

What I don't get is why this is now news at all. There has been evidence for quite awhile of al least 4 Democratic Governors who have done the same thing, including Cuomo. Some reports state at least 5 of these knucklehead Leftist Governors directly causing the deaths of thousands, with the mainstream media being complicit, CNN the worst of them all. I can't even watch that garbage so-called news station any longer, they are so disgusting.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/doj-seeks-data-nursing-home-deaths-4-states-led-democrats-n1238399

Of course there was a cover up! Of course the death rates were under reported! These news outlets do not care about the American people at all. They are only interested in pushing an ideology.

These 4 States accounted for the bulk of Covid reported deaths at that time, but hey, let's blame it on Trump. Somehow, through the help of radicalized Lefty social media companies, Lefty mainstream media organizations and the ridiculous pulpit of the most far left of the Democratic party, Trump got all the blame while the far Left got away with murder, literally.

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How Many Masks Will You Wear?

by minimus in

jw
friends

there are recommendations that we should start doubling up on masks.

some have even suggested that tripling masks would even be better!

what’s your opinion of wearing numerous masks?

Brock Talon

I wear 5 masks. Makes me safer... and more politically correct.

I also like to wear 5 jackets. Makes me safer... and warmer.

Before I was married and played around, I used to wear 5 condoms. Made me safer... and bigger...

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GameStop - Great Seeing Short-Selling Hedge Funds Get Beaten Up

by Simon in

in case you haven't seen what's happened with gamestop and redditors.. these are the people who drive companies like blockbuster out of business and put people out of work.. but maybe the people have more power after all .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9toogruq7me.

Brock Talon

I missed the last few days on this forum (I don't get on it much). But I just had to respond to the issue I raised regarding the 2008 market crash I mentioned earlier in this post and why I resent fast-buck "house flippers" so much.

To be certain, the subprime mortgage problem and the subsequent 2008 crash was a complex issue. I will concede that there are many contributing factors as to why it happened. I won't go over them here, but suffice to say that most of the claimed contributing reasons for the cause are more likely just factors. They are not necessarily the cause.

The recent and most thorough studies of this issue have shown that it was the more wealthy "investors" who ultimately defaulted en masse and triggered the 2008 crash. It was not just a bunch of poor sub-prime buyers. These "investors" are the ones who do the flipping. The more "poorer" buyers are just trying to get into a home to live in, one in a market they are competing against with the wealthier "flippers" who play the system rather than live in it. Once the market peaked and these investors could not make their fast buck, they defaulted on their loans en masse and triggered the crash.

See the article below for a better explanation of this.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/house-flippers-triggered-us-housing-175705459.html

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What to say? Death of an adult child.

by jwundubbed in

my father married b when both her children and his children were grown adults.

b had two children, a son d and a daughter m. my sister db, my brother rh, and myself got along well with m but not at all with d, who was a very christian person but not a jw.

my siblings and i do not have much to do with our stepmother though we are civil and we don't have any hard feelings between us.

Brock Talon

The above is wonderful advice. I lost two children myself, twins. Shortly after birth. Born premature and their little lungs did not hold out and the NICU could not save them.

Anyone who is a friend of someone who loses a child and that friend says nothing, is not a friend. Saying nothing completely ignores a person's grief during what is probably the worst time of their life. Yes, it is awkward for you, but so what? Friends work through the awkward times because that's what friends do. If you can't be there for someone during their worst time, then you are not really a friend.

That said, you don't have to say a lot. In fact, the less said, the less likely you are to say something that the one in grief could take wrong. How about "I am so sorry for your loss. I am here for you." Give them a hug. Weep with them if you feel it.

One of my better friends did just that with me. He hugged me and we cried together. That is all I needed at that time. After awhile I could talk about it, but not when it was fresh. Other friends did similarly. To this day I love those people even more than I did before my loss. And I would do anything for them.

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GameStop - Great Seeing Short-Selling Hedge Funds Get Beaten Up

by Simon in

in case you haven't seen what's happened with gamestop and redditors.. these are the people who drive companies like blockbuster out of business and put people out of work.. but maybe the people have more power after all .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9toogruq7me.

Brock Talon

Sorry Pistolpete, but I personally resent swing traders, day traders, short sellers and the like. The entire purpose of a company selling their stock is so that anyone can buy into that company and own a piece of it. In theory, every stock one purchases should be in a company they believe in and want to own for the long haul. It is a financially supportive transaction that shores up that company so it can do its business and keep their employees employed and their shareholders sharing in the profits via dividends. It should be for the regular person to get some sense of security for retirement, especially now that companies no longer give pensions to their employees and the Social Security system itself is being stretched and threatened. Fast buck traders like you threaten that security for everyone else.

I resent these quick buck people in the same way as I resent house flippers who do not buy houses to live in, but rather to make fast money at the expense of other, many of them doing the minimum to get a house livable in doing so. Houses exist be to bought to actually live in, or at least to rent out for people to live in. Not to be gamed for a quick buck. House flipping is what led to the 2008 market crash, which hurt the little people the most. The subprime house loans were ginned up by the ever escalating home prices created by fake turnover in the market due to home purchase/flip speculation. Eventually it all collapsed (like all ponzi schemes) and I and people like me were left holding the bag for many, many years. House flippers made their money and walked away and the banks were bailed out and walked away. All at our expense. Shameful.

If you do win in the long run and are able to exit your positions with a nice profit, you do so off the backs of others. Instead of investing in a company to financially support them to continue to do business in the long run so that EVERYONE wins, you want to make a quick buck at the expense of others? Your comment "there are people out there buying them... at this price" shows you know that eventually there are people who lose in this "game" and those are the one you are hurting.

In my opinion, it is not a nice way to make a living.